The SydRide Mailing List
- Cameron Simpson
(and a Privacy Note)
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The SydRide and SydRide-Chat lists
exist primarily to organise group rides
in the Sydney or NSW region of Australia,
and secondarily for anything else which seems pertinent to the area.
However, see the Etiquette before posting to the lists.
Note that you should only subscribe to one or the other.
SydRide-Chat is itself subscribed to SydRide
so if you subscribe to both you will get duplicates of anything sent to SydRide.
Please visit the following URLs:
There are facilites there to join the list or to adjust your membership
if you're already a member.
The SydRide and SydRide-Chat mailing list submission addresses are:
They nominally consist of email-reachable riders in the Sydney area
(this includes Newcastle, the ACT and the Gong, since many destinations such as
Macquarie Pass or the Oxley are mutually reachable).
Regarding usage, I find that high volume lists also have a high
Accordingly, there are two lists, one for people who want to know about rides
but not get deluged with chatter, and another for discussion of rides etc.
SydRide-Chat is the discussion list.
SydRide itself is low volume:
announcements and initial questions only, please.
Thus, the following suggestions:
This seems to be seems a simple and low impact rough etiquette.
Try to follow it. Help it along with careful use of Reply-To: headers
if it's convenient.
Remember to pass major updates and plan finalisations to SydRide
to keep the low volume readers in touch.
The formal archives are the usual MailMan archives, here:
In addition to the automatic list archives kept by mailman,
SydRide is also archived by the Yahoo Groups (once FindMail) service at
Anything posted to the list is archived at FindMail.
If you're worried about spammers,
read FindMail's anti-spam measures
and my recipe for
Beating Spam Without Busting Your Address.
It's futile to try to hide your address in the long term, and better to
defend against misuse.
The FindMail service does appear to consider privacy concerns quite carefully
(their sub to the list was very above board).
Members bothered by this can remove their messages
from the service either after posting or preemptively at posting time.
These are both described in their anti-spam measures.
SydRide is now mostly handled by a Majordomo service.
subscription and unsubscription
can be done by sending a message to
- No Binaries!
Don't post pictures or video to mailing lists.
If you have something worth seeing, put it on a web or ftp site
and just post the URL to sydride-chat.
- Plain text only please!
Many members do not use web browsers or other HTML capable
programs to read email.
In any mixed forum (like these lists or a Usenet newsgroup)
it is essential to mail only plain text
so that everyone can read it.
There are instructions for adjusting this for most mail
programs at http://www.expita.com/nomime.html.
- Post ride plans to SydRide
and also to aus.motorcycles.
- Respond to the ride organiser, not the list, about ride participation.
If you want to chat about things, copy to SydRide-Chat and aus.moto
Remember that the ride organiser is not necessarily on SydRide-Chat,
so copy to them explicitly if your message needs their response.
- The organiser summarises back to the list as major changes occur
(eg dates, venues).
- Take long running discussions to the aus.moto newsgroup
and/or the SydRide-Chat list
(an alternative venue is the NerdFreeBikeChat mailing list,
whose focus is not as narrow as SydRide-Chat's focus is meant to be).
NB: SydRide-Chat and NerdFreeBikeChat and aus.moto are all
- Subscription: see below.
- Send reports of mail bounces to:
with the line
(or, of course, unsubscribe)
in the body of the message.
If you want to do something complicated such as removing your old address and
adding a new one
it's probably much simpler to email me at
with the details.
Send the line:
in the body of the message to
above for more info.
Other problems or queries,
reports of bounces,
and other things concerning the running of the list
should be sent to:
This is currently me, so there are no special formatting requirements.
I do like to record folks' bikes, so if you like you can simply email me
your subscription request (as a friendly letter, not the terse automatic form)
and I'll add you by hand, including bike type.
The intent here is that people can retrieve the list membership
and ask individuals bike-specific queries if they want to avoid hassling
the whole list.
The lists are maintained with majordomo,
a popular mailing list control tool written in Perl.
The memberships listed here are snapshots at the time I update my ISP
(the live data lives on my work machine).
The snapshots happen pretty often (every few days normally),
and the "live" membership list can be had from the majordomo server itself.
The snapshotting is done with some scripts wrapped around ssh
(which everyone should use!)
and some MD5 checksum comparison stuff.
Other ride events pages can be found in my
Moto Events Section.
Specific Australian events pages.
Note: the list below is badly maintained (my fault).
People do go out riding regularly and you're better off just
lurking on the list that looking here.
My apologies. - Cameron
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